Not sure if that’s too dependent on MMORPG terminology or not, but I think that could make a good poster.

Not sure if TMI, but one example is that I once got up to go to the bathroom while fully asleep. Fairly normal so far, right? Except in order to take my midnight pee, I stripped completely nude (do I need to mention that this is not my SOP?). My wife asked me what I was doing, I said, “PEEING, WHAT DO YOU THINK?” (read that in Napoleon Dynamite’s voice for maximum effect).

Small differences.

Check this blog out for hilarity: http://sleeptalkinman.blogspot.com/. The same kind of hilarity that one might derive from, say, Tourette’s.

https://stonerwithaboner.wordpress.com/2012/12/17/rape-apologia/

Equilibrium, I quoted your above comment, thanks!

I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating, I have had similar experiences to that dude. I can unequivocally say that anyone paying any attention can tell you are not in your right mind when you are sleep walking/sleep fucking. That includes whether or not you are engaging in behavior that sort of follows typical patterns you might engage in, because they are done differently than normal.

Not a lot of people have experience with sleeping next to a sleepfucker, so it can catch you off guard, especially the first time. But I can almost guarantee you that there were signs that he wasn’t operating in his normal state.

A real bar fight, hmm, one that I started or one that I joined in? Unfortunately on both counts, too many to recall. 😉

one thing you maybe should have included was that Feministe had an article about a woman who “may” have raped her boyfriend and the commenters seemed to have a very different conclusion–

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/09/19/is-it-rape-if-you-dont-mean-for-it-to-be-rape/
See especially Amanda Marcotte’s comments….

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/09/19/is-it-rape-if-you-dont-mean-for-it-to-be-rape/#comment-526368

Now as far as the GMP article where the guy penetrated a sleeping woman, I agree with the feminist’s and say she couldn’t have consented. (There is no indication that there was a discussion beforehand where she said she likes to be fucked while asleep and they mutually agreed to do this.) What follows-this is rape….

Back to the sleeping man and his girlfriend….

Marcotte’s comments strike me as rape apologia-in fact I believe if the genders were changed and a manosphere blogger said what she said, they would skewer him….

alright, there “may” be a few differences of why the two stories are not an apple’s to apples comparison….

Perhaps the woman honestly thought he was awake and able to imply consent by acting in a way he had many times before. Jill called this a latin legal term called mens rae…

See this exchange between Dan and Jill

http://www.feministe.us/blog/archives/2012/12/08/what-in-holy-hell-is-this/#comment-558236

alright, now there are allot of facts we seem to be in the dark about…

From my point of view, perhaps the woman is not responsible if his eyes were open-a sign many of us would interpret as being awake and also if she had no prior knowledge that he was a sleep walker. If she knew he was a sleep walker, then she would be obligated to figure out if he was awake and able to consent….

now, with all this said, there is still part of me that thinks the feminist’s went through a bunch of mental gymnastics to clear a woman that they wouldn’t do to clear a man. It is up to each individual to decide who is arguing in good faith…

The beauty of commentimg on a blog is that you don’t really need to wait for others to stop talking if you want to get a word in edgewise. That’s not whay the rest of us aren’t commenting if we aren’t – it’s just that the dogfight si so much fun to watch.

This is another space that can take dialogue from both sides, but the floor is open for clean fighting and there’s little or no favoratism , and that can drive some away.

SWAB, this discussion inspired some of my post about GMP: http://daisysdeadair.blogspot.com/2012/12/your-latest-progressive-blogdonia-brawl.html

…so thank you! 🙂

same as if an MRA says the sky is blue. feminist’s disagree just to disagree…

Go over to manboobz and look at what they said about Typhon Blue’s theory….

You may not agree w/ Typhon Blue but look how they intentionally misread what she said and further twisted things…