Comments on: MALE DISPOSABILITY – Erasing male rape victims, Part II – Tamen evaluates a British and a Norwegian study on rape victims and finds invalidating methodological errors

By: ONS Will Look Into Adding Questions To The CSEW To Capture More Male Victims (NoH) | Feminist Critics

Wed, 21 May 2014 01:22:00 +0000

[…] Act of 2003 Section 4.4 (c)(d). The post was based on an analysis I did last year for comments at Genderratic, Heteronormative Patriarchy for men, and here at […]

By: ONS will look into adding questions to the CSEW to capture more male victims | Tamen's writings

Fri, 02 May 2014 09:10:47 +0000

[…] 4.4 (c)(d). The post was based on an analysis I did last year for comments on FeministCritics, Genderratic and Heteronormative Patriarchy for […]

By: Some Swedish, Norwegian and baltic statistics on sexual abuse amongst youths | Tamen's writings

Sat, 05 Oct 2013 20:08:26 +0000

[…] Norwegian part if this survey (which was published in a separate NOVA report in Norwegian) in this comment at Genderratic where I also discussed the way “being made to penetrate” is categorised in the […]

By: Is there room for a dialogue on consent and rape? | Men's Rights

Is there room for a dialogue on consent and rape? | Men's Rights — Sun, 29 Sep 2013 15:49:48 +0000

[…] within the so-called manosphere (1, 2, 3 to name a few) argue that sexual contact with the penis without consent of the male should be […]

By: Ginkgo

Ginkgo — Mon, 06 May 2013 15:31:26 +0000

Jacob,
“I think the study shows how easily one can manipulate data by simply not asking the right questions. ”

This captures it. Thanks for summing this up so succinctly. I am going to reformat this post into two parts for clarity and I am going to include that comment.

As you may have noticed, we seem to be on a run of rape articles. Something that jumps out immediately is the gender biased way society deals with rape, in all aspects, and feminists’ role in perpetuating this reflects very badly on them, as you have been documenting for years..

By: Jacobtk

Jacobtk — Mon, 06 May 2013 15:14:08 +0000

I think the study shows how easily one can manipulate data by simply not asking the right questions. Tamen did a great job pointing that out. If one frames rape as something only a man can do using his penis, it is easy to overlook other types of rape.

What is curious is that the Norwegian study got nearly the same results as the CDC 2010 study in terms of who abuses males. Something that seems to bug feminists but seems to be true is that women may be more likely to abuse boys than men. Given the way CDC appears to have fiddled their results, I must wonder whether other researchers do the same thing. Do they get higher numbers of female violence than they expect and rework their study to hide that? Are they aware of the results of other studies that asked about female abusers or included them and so alter their methodology to avoid getting that data?

By: Anne Theriault’s Patriarchal Feminism (NoH) | Feminist Critics

Anne Theriault’s Patriarchal Feminism (NoH) | Feminist Critics — Fri, 03 May 2013 11:17:15 +0000

[…] I noticed that Genderratic and Tamen discuss the ‘invisiblization’ of women raping men in a recent post over there, and cite one of Tamen’s many great comments here at […]

By: Ginkgo

Ginkgo — Thu, 02 May 2013 20:20:17 +0000

Tamen, thanks for for that refinement of the argument. I really apprecite all the work oyu do with these. I am going to split this post into two because I think each study deserves to be looked at on its own and it blunts the focus on each to conflate them..

By: Tamen

Tamen — Thu, 02 May 2013 12:34:04 +0000

Daran at FeministCritics have pointed out to me that I overlooked a key part of the Sexual Offense Act of 2003, namely section 4: Causing a person to engage in sexual activity without consent This includes envelopment and have the same maximum penalty as rape. So things in the UK are a bit better than I thought, but this really doesn't change the gist of my argument: Analysts at CESW considers people who have had the crime described in section 4 (4 c & d) as NON-VICTIMS.

By: Adiabat

Adiabat — Thu, 02 May 2013 07:47:33 +0000

Great, now we have a link and counter-example to broadcast wide when feminists next bring up the whole “women are treated worse on the internet” thing. By my calculations we are due another one in about 3-4 months. Before that we should be getting another “only men can stop rape” thing.

Gingko: “but I see them exploiting a tendency in men to favor women over men and look out for their interests first, rather than actually driving the train.”

Reminds me of this I read the other day: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/05/01/climate_change_causes_prostitution/