Comments on: A dummies guide for teenage girls on how to respect boys https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/ Nerds bite back! Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:38:00 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 By: Karn33333 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15751 Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:38:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15751 In reply to Spider.

oh, I forgot to mention…. I made a youtube video addressing these statements… feel free to drop it in the comment section to the feminist who wrote that crap. lol.

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By: Karn33333 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15750 Sat, 19 Nov 2016 12:36:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15750 In reply to phlargh.

and dressing a certain way doesn’t necessarily make them a whore, but I didn’t say they were whores, I said if they dress like a whore, they might give others the wrong impression. I never said they were whores or shamed them if they were whores.

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By: phlargh https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15637 Mon, 10 Oct 2016 13:00:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15637 Generally I agree with most of what was said here. I do have to take exception with point #5. You can’t ask others to not sex shame and then repeatedly throw around the word “whore” about how someone dresses. Personally, If I see someone walking around showing a lot of skin I’m going to look at them. But that doesn’t make them a “whore”.

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By: Ginkgo https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15589 Mon, 26 Sep 2016 22:21:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15589 In reply to Karn33333.

And you might also look at all the things they don’t call rape and isolate the distinguishing feature. Hint – it will probably involve a lot of female rapists and male victims. Look for tap-dancing on the subject of teacher rapists. You might also look at how the rape accusation at Amherst was handled where the female complainant said in her own statement that he was drunk and he in fact had no memory of having had sex, yet she pushed her accusation that in fact he had raped her and he was expelled.

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By: Spider https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15584 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 13:18:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15584 In reply to Karn33333.

I’ll give you the post that people most resonated with.

“Some things in this are good examples of how the patriarchy fucks with the male experience.

I can go point by point.

1) This is great. Treat boys as humans, however, don’t let boys be boys be an excuse for anger or violence at women or other boys.

2) No sex shaming. Great start here, masturbation is a thing that people get to do and should enjoy and not be shamed for. The minute this one diverges into not giving blue balls to a guy though, fuck that. If a partner doesn’t feel comfortable moving forward during a sexual act, they are not giving you blue balls. That prioritizes your pleasure over their comfort with whatever is going on.

3) No means no. Good start. However, implying that a woman’s no doesn’t mean no is total bullshit. That implies women are duplicitous or liars or manipulators which is bullshit.

4) Boys have emotions. Good on ya. Now let’s focus on how male culture devalues and demonizes men who express emotion that is not anger, often implying they are women suggesting that women are lesser for feeling emotions.

5) This is a giant pile of bullshit. Gaslighting is used incorrectly here. The writer should understand a word before they use it. Also, we live in a society where the constructed norms are male, white, and cisgender. Assuming that “normal” society should be the judge when it is so heavily gendered is incorrect. Next, getting the wrong idea about women is on men, not women. It comes from the assumption that women are there for men, and how they appear should be for men. Lastly, women can fucking dress, apply makeup, and “advertise” themselves however they fucking want to. The assumption that makeup should be so that a man knows what he is getting is bullshit.

6) Again this is a giant fucking shitshow of patriarchy here. It is implying women are disingenuous, manipulative, and don’t work. There’s a whole bunch of things around labor here that is also bullshit. Men should also own their own emotional baggage, not think they can buy women with gifts, etc.

7) Again assuming women are manipulative and controlling. That they are out to get men. Bullshit.

8) This is a nice thought. Although it entirely skips whole works of studies around how fucked up abusive relationships are, how hard it is to leave them, etc.

9) This is basically victim blaming for actions men take without any where near the same amount of risk or blame placed on them. There’s a giant pile of rape culture bullshit sewn into this one.

10) Patriarchy is rampant here. First, that fighting is the correct answer. Next, that women are manipulative and lie about rape or sex to control men which is statistically nearly a lie. False claims are nearly nonexistent and the fact that they get blown out of proportion and that actual claims of rape go vastly underreported and rarely prosecuted or punished makes number 10 a steaming pile of bullshit.

11) Great thought here. Also our control of our emotions isn’t just a giant act of will. This ignores a large body of research that shows that our environment, our body, etc. can influence our emotions. It also puts the onus of other people not being assholes on the oneself which is bullshit. Being offended is not a crime, particularly when the offense is impinging upon someone’s sense of safety, harming someones emotional state due to former trauma, etc.

12) Awww such an empty statement to close with. Not everyone deserves respect, particularly this author whose opinions belittle women. Nor does everyone deserve being nice to, if you’re an asshole I’m going to call you out. This is basically the author attempting to gaslight women.

*mic drop*”

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By: Karn33333 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15583 Sat, 24 Sep 2016 02:02:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15583 In reply to Ginkgo.

thank you, I’m glad you liked my writing. I’m going to do one on all the things feminist call rape next. I hope… you should look up my YT channel, I made a response video to their list before I wrote this.

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By: Ginkgo https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15581 Fri, 23 Sep 2016 21:49:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15581 Excellent, tightly written article. I love these flip the gender pieces because compare and contrast really works with people. You mobilize judgments and conclusions they have already made.

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By: Karn33333 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15577 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:04:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15577 In reply to Spider.

lol, I’d like to see that shit show. hell, you can direct them my way if you’d like.

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By: Nostradormouse https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15576 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 18:07:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15576 In reply to Karn33333.

Lamentably, Mama ex-patriated in her 20s, and is now a tenured Professor in one of your country’s fine establishments of higher learning. A private English education imbued her with one of those voices that cuts right through you, and at a very profound level, expects to be listened to.

The only hope I have is that my neice studies a STEM degree, which puts my next conversation with her at least six years hence, if she has the native intelligence to de-foo herself.

Re: other topics, how about suggesting to girls that they decide on some life objectives, then find a woman whose life course and trajectory they wish to emulate, and actually ask how they got there.

Advice from teachers on life choices is all very well, but one should consider the source of the advice. If the teacher is unmarried, childless, doctrinaire, unattractive, or their life pattern is not congruent with your plans, consider the source of the data.

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By: Spider https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/2016/09/20/a-dummies-guide-for-teanage-girls-in-how-to-respect-boys/#comment-15575 Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:43:00 +0000 https://www.honeybadgerbrigade.com/?p=155771#comment-15575 In reply to Karn33333.

I read it too, and posted it on my FB. Oh boy, did I get reamed. Everyone lost their minds.

Personally I liked your article, although I disagreed on some minor points. Still…phew. You should have seen the shit show.

That’ll teach me to post anything on FB…

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